Spatial Attraction
SPATIAL ATTRACTION is a podcast about the spaces we work in, and the forces that shape how we think, interact, and perform.
Hosted by Kursty Groves (author, speaker, and senior advisor on work, experience and human performance), the show explores why some environments energise people and make good work easier… while others leave us scattered, tense, or stuck. Each episode follows one clear theme - from focus and flow to trust, belonging, creativity, and momentum - and looks at what’s really driving behaviour beneath the surface.
You’ll hear expert interviews, real-world stories, and research-informed insights across five dimensions of space: physical, social, digital, cognitive (headspace), and temporal. Expect practical language, sharp observations, and simple shifts you can make - whether you’re leading a team, shaping experience, or redesigning the conditions for better work.
If you’re joining from The Office Chronicles, welcome - this is the next chapter.
Spatial Attraction
Hybrid Work Office Space Challenges Worth Solving With Emma Morley, Trifle*
Solving hybrid work challenges requires us to talk less about desks and more about how we work. Emma Morley and Kursty discuss what it’s like to solve hybrid work, all the things that get in the way, and how to be more intentional in solving for it. Different stakeholders around the office often have conflicting and ever-changing requirements for what the office should be like and what it should be for. Tune in for insights about how to decide what problems are worth figuring out and what problems are unnecessary distractions.
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Timestamps
[00:29] Episode Overview: Who is Emma Morley?
[03:15] Should you give your employees what they ask for?
[10:17] Is it possible to future-proof office spaces?
[13:02] Does balance really exist?
[16:34] Working in silos vs. working together to design office space
[23:28] Designing for Monday morning meetings vs. designing for energy
[27:40] What’s missing from online conferences?
[32:01] What remote work problems should we solve? (and which are not worth it)
3 Key Takeaways:
- Sometimes, when companies attempt to have adult-adult relationships with their employees and try to be employee-centric, things start becoming rather individualistic. People start making demands that pertain to them without considering the larger group's needs.
- There isn’t a perfect static balance. Balance is always moving and shifting. It is dynamic. If things feel balanced, you must also keep in mind that it might not stay that way long.
- Conferences are re-energizing. They remind everyone of their purpose and renew their commitment to the company and its mission. But, it’s not the same in virtual conferences. It is hard to replicate the energetic experience of face-to-face conferences. It’s critical not to compromise such high-value face-to-face interactions.
Links
Connect with Emma Morley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emma-morley-b9664b21/
Trifle* Creative: https://www.triflecreative.com/
Connect with Kursty Groves: LinkedIn | Twitter | Ask a question or pitch an idea: kursty@shapeworklife.com
Spatial Attraction is written, produced, and hosted by Kursty Groves.
Original music and sound production by Lee Golledge.
For episodes and updates, visit https://kurstygroves.com/podcast/ - and follow Spatial Attraction on LinkedIn and Instagram.
To suggest a theme or guest, email jen@spatial-attraction-podcast.com.